Dr. Mike Adams and Dr. Willie Parker debate Abortion: Reproductive right or moral wrong? The answer is a matter of life and death.
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43 Comments
@firstpersoncanon
I can't blame Dr. Adams for losing it a few times, though he would have come off better if he'd expressed more empathy. So much of these debates are optics/narrative. His closing comment about equality was his best part. I'm glad at the end he finally pointed out that Dr. Parker's entire case rests on the unborn not being persons but that Dr. Parker has no clear definition of personhood, bouncing between three incompatible definitions: sentience, viability, and birth.
@elenaemili3078
Doc. Parker you are a murder.
@jayreed3340
Black women,in Charlotte NC continue to contradict themselves, especially the so call Christians, having had an abortion demonstrates self hate and most women never fully recover physcologically
@harishjadhav6474
Humans become person at birth is wild
@moglimogify
props to the moderator for keeping the audience in check.
@georgedickson1410
You folks in the comments are only encouraging more men to get vasectomies and women to get tubal ligations.
@RockLight-vz5wg
When a man divides his pairs of xy cells to create one female x sperm cell and one male y sperm cell, his body makes copies and two females and two males are then grown until they detach from the father's testicle glands were they start moving around independent of their father's Consciousness and are observably their own individual consciousnesses. They are not part humans or inhuman, they are very much conscious and human. Life does not begin at conception, and although conception maybe a spiritual union between two people's DNA, it is that very reason that makes abortion morally acceptable in the cases of rape and infidelity and flat out broken Commandments and the course of crimes which go Way Beyond the word sin.. these are sins so bad that they require immediate action and thus are highlighted as Commandments an actual physical laws
It breaks two of the five Commandments that refer to actions taken towards other human beings and four of the five Commandments that refers to oneself and their relationship with God
So to sit there and try to use the Commandments to justify not upholding the Commandments is an unsophisticated View of what morality is and how morality is practiced and upheld
@JoshMcDonald-e2i
https://youtu.be/AnbPXzdJMuY?si=VcvIiYb2Ogtm1nDz
@markschristjourney
so ironic we call simple cell organisms signs of life but debate when life begins in the womb.
@ericalagogiannis8331
The mother comes first
@jvlp2046
In every rule, there is always an EXEMPTION… God allowed the mothers to be saved first before the unborn child if there is a Real Serious HEALTH threat/problem to the life of the mother by/through pregnancy… Pregnancy can be Aborted… OTHER than that, ABORTION of the Unborn Child is a Gravious (Mortal) SIN against God…
In conclusion, when it comes to Serious Threats in LIFE by Pregnancy… God's priority is for us (doctors/caregivers) to save the Mother first before the Unborn Child should serious life threats to the mother occur… (ref. Exo. 22:21-24)…. same is also true with the Animals, logically speaking…
Take Note:… Saving first the Mother during pregnancy threats/problems does not mean DELIVERATELY and DIRECTLY killing/murdering the Unborn Child to save the Mother… but the INTENTION of SAVING both if possible, even if the priority is the Life of the Mother… God sees our INTENTION from our HEART…
Praise be to God in Christ Jesus… Amen.
@jvlp2046
A God-fearing Physician/Doctor's INTENTION is to do his/her best to SAVE both the Mother and her Unborn Child even if the Mother is the priority should a complication or severe threats occur in the life of the mother… As the good old saying goes, "DO YOUR BEST, AND GOD WILL DO THE REST."… Praise be to God in Christ Jesus… Amen.
@Cutedge2
The baby murder guy sure was nervous. His voice was shaking the whole time, because he knew he had nothing from the very beginning his voice was full of fear and guilt. What was all that crap about a baby not being a person?
@Rudysetgo1819
Comments full of "I'm a true christian"… no one cares to hear your pitiful attempts at feeling good about yourselves.
@bt1550
How a person can claim to be a Christian and Profit from Killing THOUSANDS of the unborn is Mind Boggling. This fool must have somehow forgot that Commandment.
@Nahnah111
The title of this debate should've been:
"Pro-life Doctor k1lls his opponent during debate about abortion"
@AndersErichsen-rr7vs
Is this the best from this wonderful guy?
@everlight7944
Dr. Willie Parker may be the most evil person alive.
@joelschama1735
God condones and demands abortion. READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
@mfolson81
You'd think a medical doctor would have some facts about biology….guess not. Alls Willie did was say Adams facts were not facts, but had no facts of his own. Classic.
@BroBauchery
It appears that the late Dr. Mike Adams was so well read on other peoples work, he based his entire argument on Scott Klusendorf's argument made 2 years prior in a similar debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzHwHX601no
Congrats to Dr. Parker on not feeding into the personal attacks that the late Dr. Adams insinuated.
Edit: Kept listening and wow, Dr. Adams really demonstrates his lack of professionalism in his emotion fueled questions and assertions on the character of Dr. Parker. He also verbatim regurgitates Dr. Klusendorf's arguments.
@sigururolafsson2257
Maybe I should be a mother?🎉
@getbuckposse
Abort the Dr
@VikiB-g6q
Dr.Adams forgot one fact. A woman. Like women don't exist in this issue.
@mysticmouse7261
I almost wish abortion on the annoying moderator.
@chrishanson1631
I think quoting biology text books to show life begins at conception leaves open the idea that biology is wrong about things. After all, science throughout history has been found to be wrong about 90% of the time. I expect it is only a matter of time until they change what the text books say. Science will never tell us when life begins. We all allready inherently know. Some just will not admit they do not inherently value life.
@christymorgan3705
I guess I am naive but I was shocked to find Dr. Parker claims he is a Christian and even dared to bring in God's holy name and the word to defend abortion and his murdering a person"created in the image of God" also in the bible. The bible also states, "These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Maybe study the Word of God more and rip babies out of the womb less!😢
@ModernMercenary
45:44 Love this part
@alexkenchel
I’ve noticed that any actual abortion debates are hosted by anti-abortion organizations. It makes sense, because science and basic morality is on our side. If I supported abortion, I wouldn’t want to have a conversation about it either. Anything on the topic coming from the pro-abortion side, is just pointing and laughing or shouting our side down. Their behavior truly shows their foolishness. The more conversations had about abortion the better. People need to know the truth.
@rustyshackleford6259
Baby killer willie gets paid to murder children. FULL STOP. He can blow hot air all he wants…but in the end he will be in the great white throne room receiving Gods judgement and wrath. Sick and lost soul he is
@markdiorio468
Why do we outlaw the destruction of eagle embryos but condone destruction of human embryos? 🤷🏻♂️
@yveZ79
Apologies but I think this is an unfair event. It is clear, by his own words, that Dr. Parker is not as eloquent in the arts of debate as Dr. Adams. This means that automatically it seems as if Dr. Adams has an advantage on defending his point of view. This does not mean he actually has better arguments, or otherwise, but it sure does seem that way due to this advantage. I have extreme respect for Dr. Parker to have a go at this anyway. Difficult topic a a whole.
@paulajames6149
I could not watch the video of abortions.
No one has the “right” or the “choice” to kill another person.
I have watched many debates on this topic and I still have not heard a good argument for prochoice.
@Mytube8I
For Abortionist Willie Parker to bring up the alleged fact that he is a “Christian” while contemporarily engaging in the acts that result in the pictures of the aborted fetuses we saw on the screen is grotesquely tone def and blasphemous. Willie Parker is a cordial degenerate. He will be judged harshly because he has deliberately and appallingly used his faith as a way to try and convince listeners that killing the pre-born child is theologically sanctioned within Christianity. That notion is straight from the pit of hell.
@aarnotuhnu4011
It was a bit surprising and disturbing to notice how strongly Adams attacked on Parker's person. Otherwise the debate was not bad.
What was not surprising to me is how both debaters made things unnecessarily complex – it seems to happen with most debates on this subject. Parker had considerable problems in defining when "personhood" begins – and then it is easy to attack on that kind of vague answers.
To me the basic issue is about self-awareness. Yes, you can kill an unborn baby, because that baby will never know he/she was alive. So, yes, his or her life has less value than that of the mother. On the other hand, why did Parker not want to admit that killing anything that is alive, is something that is not good. Abortion is always a bad thing, but sometimes it is simply less bad than giving a birth.
Finally, a new-born baby is also unaware of his/her life. So, you might say that you can also end the life of a very young baby without it being an equally malicious deed as killing a person who will understand his/her life ending. But where can you draw the line? You sure wouldn't want to take chances on an issue like this, would you? So, to me it is a practical and safe solution the draw the line on birth.
A religious person understandably has another kind of evaluation on this subject, but to me the issue is rather straight-forward – definitely not one-sided, but a straight-forward one.
@steveshapiro326
Mike Adams was a staunch born-again Christian. So his suicide was puzzling.
@britestart1
It's all about the money!!
@britestart1
A lady loses her rights if she has a to stay home and watch over a new born baby.
@etyrnal
willy says that slaves had their "labor stolen" ?? Did he mean their LIFE / liberty / freedom / personhood?
Wow. SO he acknowledges that a 'LEGAL SYSTEM' and 'LAWS' can STEAL a SLAVE'S PERSONHOOD.. yet refuses to acknowledge how a MODERN LEGAL SYSTEM / LAWS could STEAL a fetus' PERSONHOOD?? LOL?!
He literally just ACKNOWLEDGED that a LEGAL SYSTEM — which he keeps deferring to for his 'AUTHORITY' and moral compass of whether or not he can be arrested for it, or whether he can have the police called on him for it — RATHER than any INTERNAL personally-responsible-unique-rationalization — a LEGAL SYSTEM CAN, DOES, and DID, REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE PERSONHOOD of human beings == SLAVES.
So, let me see if i got this right… A LEGAL system is ENTIRELY CAPABLE of HAVING BEEN/BEEING INSANELY WRONG, and has been DEMONSTRATED — not just hyperbole — to have DENIED HUMAN BEING PERSONHOOD, and he COMPLETELY DISAGREES with a LEGAL SYSTEM that can just TAKE AWAY A SLAVE'S (human being) PERSONHOOD, but, to ease his conscience about being PAID to take the lives and any possible future personhood, he just winks at the CURRENT LEGAL SYSTEM, and then turns to an audience, and says, well the LEGAL SYSTEM says that human being is NOT a PERSON… and if you CALL the legal system and try to get me arrested, just like this very same legal system in the past, if you'd tried to call the legal system and claimed that someone was killing a slave, that very same legal system would NOT have sent police to arrest anyone — because they HUMAN BEING was not magically DEFINED as a PERSON, with PERSONHOOD?
HOLY CRAP. This guy indirectly argues FOR slavery, and makes a case FOR a 'legal system' that make a MAGIC SPELL (law/statute/ordinance/code) that mysteriously has the power to TAKE AWAY a fetus' PERSONHOOD, or to DISALLOW the fetus' RIGHT to personhood (life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness)…
Apparently he holds these legalities to be not self-evident, but that all men are created ONLY by legal systems. and are endowed with LIMITED PERSONHOOD…
witaf
@etyrnal
willy CLAIMS to be mr science… then suggests that women should check with their god(s) about their abortion related choices
@etyrnal
1:45:40 – willy just gave a sexist analysis… he is inferring that ONLY MEN seek to chime in on the issue – and in doing so, has TAKEN AWAY the VOICE OF – by NOT ACKNOWLEDGING the existence of — WOMEN who ALSO hold "pro-life" / "anti-abortion" issues.
WOW, willy. Seriously. He, having NO UTERUS WHATSOEVER, just PRETENDED that he spoke for ALL women, and just asked the audience to believe that ALL women are aligned with his view. SO ironic to hear a MAN MANSPLAING that a MAN should NOT be weighing in on WOMEN'S ISSUES… oh, and, willy, what EXACTLY is a/are 'woman'/'women'?
@etyrnal
1:35:00 the questioner is suggesting that the POSSIBILTY that a woman MIGHT/maybe/could experience post partum depression and might / maybe /possibly commit suicide, is a literal basis to elect to have an abortion… literally BEFORE when even knows it will happen?
In what other ways can we extrapolate the "my fear of the most extreme hyperbole i can imagine, gives me the ultimate pass to excuse ANYTHING i might decide to do"
i.e. hyperbolic fear based in my own imaginings is the basis of my rights? So, if you have a neighbor who suddenly gets a paranoid fear that you MIGHT put out poisoned treats for the dog, they can use that imagined paranoid hyperbolic fear to what? Have you arrested as a prevention for something they IMAGINED?
Is that what she's asking us to consider? So, what if that fear was an idea implanted by someone else? Now suddenly we have a situation where, party A, can introduce ideas to, and stoke these fearful ideas into party B, ABOUT PARTY C, which would make party B extremely fearful of PARTY C, and then party B should be able to use that fear as a 'right'/'justification' to treat party C … blah blah blah… so, hegelian dialectic weaponry? I mean, as long as we're entertaining the hyperbole game…
wild
@etyrnal
1:32:10 – will just compared a fetus to a murderer. a typically defined murderer is, in some moral systems, is 'justifies' the putting to death of the murderer in order to PREVENT the additional murders which a serial murderer/criminal appears likely to commit, in order for the people of that culture/society to protect the right to life of the rest of the not-yet-murdered… in what case is an infant 'put to death out of fear it 'intends' [sentience??] to commit MURDER' ?
wild comparison